Security of India - Nuke, Global Defence Scenario

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Do You know their strategy in `waging´ war against peaceful, innocent people like little children, women and men who are civillians?
"Search and destroy"!
This time they may search for their own destruction. May be they´ll find it! One must consider, that Russia and China will not be amused, when the Zions and the US nuke and bomb around at their frontiers in Iran. USraels strategic `experts´ have announced in a very clever and arrogant NWO manner, that Russia and China are the next and final targets. What do You think, that the `targets´ think about it? Will they promote their own elimination by Zionistic America, or won´t they be better off in terminating such satanic games by defending against world criminals, who must be stopped or they will kill `everything and anything that moves´ - or has crude oil.
<strong>Usrael is not the superior power in the world.</strong> Neither in arms for first strike, nor in sophisticated defense weapons! They don´t even know, what this is! Remember the first Gulf war.
Zionistic America wanted to defend the holy, holy, holy Zionists against Saddams antique Scud rockets with its `Patriot´-system. `Joke-system´ would have been a better name for that. A great amount of that Patriots even didn´t lift off, after pushing the launch button. And the rest missed Saddams Scuds, so that they could reach Israel! Imagine the rockets would have been armed nuclear. Fireworks in wholy land.
In the seventies USA switched off a military defense station intended to protect against Russian and Chinese intercontinental, nuclear armed missiles. But after 1 (one!) day this station was off duty, because its concept of defense with having nuclear bombs exploded in the atmosphere could not work. For this would cause a NEMP - Nuclear ElectroMagnetic Pulse - that would destroy any electronic device hundreds of miles around and therefore the own radar equipment, too. After that, all defense capacity is gone.
USrael cannot prevent attacking rockets reaching its territory!
Moreover, it´s Russia and China, that have the real superior arms for eliminating the enemy!
Think about weapons like the SS-N-22, "Sunburn",
SS-N-25/26, "Oniks", "Yakhont" for tactical purposes and the nonplusultra Topol-M, "Bulawa" for strategic (intercontinental) jobs.
Sunburns are really sophisticated weapons! Sunburns fly three times as quick as a rifle bullet, at a flight level of 5 meters above surface. It has no straight course, but a stochastic zigzag one, that cannot be calculated by the enemy. The "little" tactical "Sunburn", launched by flankers or ships, has a yield of 250 Kilotons nuclear warhead. Remember, in Hiroshima it has been about 12 kt, only. Can you imagine, what one single "Sunburn" can do? The enemy will get a real sunburn! And the Topol-M, the "big brother" of the "Sunburn", can carry the biggest Hydrogen Bombs for intercontinental duties. Topols have similar flight capacities like the "Sunburn" and the Zionistic America is uncapable to stop them. "Fire and forget!" This means, that the staff needs to push the button, only - and hasn´t to care for anything else, then. But I am adding:
"One can forget the enemy as well"!
If these evil forces - Israel has `waged´ war against its neighbours all the time(!), America has `waged´ war 300 times in 200 years, always abroad by attacking innocent countries and peoples, never on own homeland(!) - if this evil forces go on this way, they will finally get the answer they are searching for.
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By Ishrat Husain on Monday, November 04, 2002 - 02:15 am:

THIS IS FOR YOUR MR. DILIP D'SOUZA!

You have begun your message by drawing a word picture of what, as you think, Pakistani soldiers did to Indian soldiers. I will not defend any soldiers act. I am against the very character that is taught to kill rather than to save. I have had very long discussions with soldiers and officers and they agreed that there is no army in the world that is not brute. Brutish thinking is a culture of the troopers from day one of the birth of army to the present moment.

You may say that I in my message right over this board I have praised Gen. Pervez Musharraf. I have done it. I shall reiterate this. Had this General been cruel and brute, many a heads would have rolled until now. As we say there are exceptions. Gen. Pervez Musharraf is an exception and the world has to learn from this General who has learned only to survive in the worst of the worst conditions. You know he is a Commando. What it takes to be a commando is not to be told for it is open fact. Commando training is focussed on single point. Survive with the barest minimum and in the worst of conditions. Help others to survive with you. Kill only when it is the last choice.

I was in Agra and I was attending a marriage party in the house of a Major of Armed Police in the cantonment area. He was so boastfully narrating how shamelessly he killed the ones whom he saw. Likewise, at College Chowk in Calcutta thousands upon thousands of innoncents were killed so mercilessly that it is horrifying even to tell the facts to the present generation. The killings took place near Simla Street. With the dead half dead were also picked up and hurled like logs into the trucks to be thrown into Hoogly. One, Pandey was on duty at College Chowk. He opted to be transferred to Signals and narrated some parts of the story and what made him disgusted with the killings.

We are all praise for many powers. Which one of these powers does not have the blood of the innocents on its hands?

Your report is quite dispassionate as I can see. I am inclined to believe all that you have written. I shall do you no favour. To accept truth is part of my nature.

In the name of Naxalites many a cases have been closed. One bank clerk was killed by the police in cold blood. This clerk used live in the suburb of Burdwan. He used to come over his motorcycle from his village to the railway station and then catch 'local train' to reach Calcutta where he had the job. One evening when he was going home from Burdwan station, in the middle of his way to his village home he was stopped by a Police Jeep. He believing himself to be innocent did not fear the police and stopped. He was called to come to the jeep. He parked his two-wheeler and came to the police jeep thinking that perhaps they were to find some track to reach somewhere. He was questioned. He told everything truthfullly. He was told to go. He started his two-wheeler and no sooner did he move than he receive bullents in his back. The report that the police had filed was that he was a 'dacoit' and a 'wanted person' and was killed while he was attempting to escape his arrest. This has happned at thousands of places. Pakistan too has countless such cases both reported and unreported. We are living with these tragedies Mr. D'Souza.

We must use our pen and now this key-board and the web to inform the public having access to the message boards such as this one. The prejudices must dilute. There are three classes among us. One is suffering, the other is engaged in oppressing the masses and the third is inidfferent readers luxuriating over the sensationalism. How can we fight our war? Mr. D'Souza tell me what possibly should we do? What are we capable of?

Throughout the world the people are suffering and some are silent spectators. We can not afford to be silent. You and I, Mr. D'Souza. We must bring up a Website of our own and inform the public at large of the atrocities being perpetrated on the poor masses by those who have usurped their power. We have a very long way to go but there is light at the end of the tunnel. We both know there are two ends of this dreary tunnel. We have to choose to march ahead to the end that will show the path to the people who think they are lost and may contemplate to return. We have to tell them which end will take them open expanses of Real Liberty.

I admire your courage.

By Ishrat Husain on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 09:02 pm:

Dear Indian Friends:

Why don't you come out of the morbid fear of war? There will never be any Nuclear War anywhere in the world. The super-powers have devised ways to test their inventions. These will keep us protected against the nuclear fall out. They don't have to wage a war to test their weaponry.

As for Pakistan and India their nuclear capability is only to befool the public at large. Can anyone of these two powers think of a nuclear war? No. Not at all. We have a cool headed President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. He knows better tricks in the diplomatic arena. The example is when he surprised Atal Bihari Vajpaee by suddenly taking his hand under his chin for a hand-shake. Vajpaee had to struggle to stand up and reciprocate, how so ever unwillingly. The media was watching and he was compelled to what our President forced him to do. He can bring many such surprises outside the battle field.

No sane Pakistani thinks of war. We have a greater number of saner people than India has. If we did not have these people perhaps the minorities in Pakistan would have been spending sleepless nights. But to our satisfaction they sleep well and will continue to do eternally. This is Jinnah's Pakistan and not the Pakistan of those Mullah who opposed its creation at the hands of a clean shaven dissident from the Indian National Congress which had turned into a worst fascist organisation.

Don't frighten your laymen. Give them hopes and cures for common ailments. Can't you my dear readers? You can. Carve out time and post mail after mail to promote peace and tranquility of minds.

We have common enemy in the shape of illiteracy, disease, hunger, cultural backwardness and all. Fight against these rather than thinking of spilling blood.

Ours is the Land of Asoka the Great, the only Hero King who traversed whole of the South Asia and spread Buddhism after converting himself to this faith and abandoning Hindu or rather Sanatan Dharam.

Past is past. We have to build a future. This computer of Bill Gate will take us to a goal that we think is unreachable. It is visible to those who have vision.

By Deepak Modak on Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:29 am:

The U.S. military will intervene in an Indo-Pak nuke war

Hi,
I'm not so sure that the West will just sit back and only
engage in diplomatic manuvering if India and Pakistan were to nuke
each other. Yes, they may not actually occupy the country, but they
will certainly impose a solution through military means if both
sides prove unwilling to disengage. U.S. analysts have already
mentioned that fact.

http://www.brook.edu/dybdocroot/views/op-ed/ohanlon/20010404.htm

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2001/09/04/stories/13040178.htm

http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR1315/MR1315.ch4.pdf

(SEE THE LAST LINK ESPECIALLY - PAGE-79 (according to the page, not
the box below) "...U.S. military involvement in South Asia...India
and Pakistan...cross nuclear threshold...demand a massive and
immediate humanitarian assistance effort...The U.S. military would
amost certainly find itself on the leading edge of any such
underatking-a venture that would combine all the stresses of a
CONTINENTAL-SCALE PEACE ENFORCEMENT (my emphasis) and relief
operation with many of the risks of major theater warfare."

India certainly wouldn't be able to resist the U.S. militarily.

I agree with you that "power comes out of the barrel of a gun"
(Mao's dictum), but, as Sun Tzu wrote, "supreme excellence consists
in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting" (Chp 3, verse
2).

http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/taoism/suntext.htm

What I proposed earlier (confederation etc) would lock Pakistan and
India together. The dividing border would practically be gone.
Economic integration (and prosperity) would increase. Besides, we
would have a common military etc.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2001/08/30/stories/05302523.htm

I don't believe in peace for its own sake; in the India-Pak context
it is the means to an end - the creation of a united front against
outside powers. If military force furthers India's goals with
regards to Nepal etc, then we should use our armed forces against
those countries. We would certainly prevail against them. An Indo-
Pak nuclear war (or continuing conflict with that country) would
severly weaken India. Other countries would then take advantage of
the situation.

Regarding this topic, we may all know the facts" and "the issues,and
in this matter the world and the ground reality" may have "hardly
changed since independence," but, new viewpoints and interpretations
are always possible and should be welcomed. Thanks.

- Deepak Modak

By anonymous on Saturday, January 12, 2002 - 09:23 pm:

With what happened to the indians in fiji, and no rescuer to be seen, is it time forthe indian people to drop ghandhis idealism and embrace the gun and other weapons, as a more reliable means of defence, as opposed to turning the other cheek?
Or is this unrealistic?

By deprofundis on Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 10:55 am:

copy of letter to Rediff.com:
Dear Madam Archana,

How are you? It is since long we heard from you. I presume all is well at
your end. When are you visiting Palampur on your official visit?
I am writing you for some help.
My attention has drawn to an article written by one Mr. Dilip D'Souza at
the
www.rediff.com . Regretfully, it is in a bad taste and derogatory to the
supreme sacrifices of the valiant soldiers. I want to reply to him in a
proper and effective manner, if you kindly assure me that it would be posted
on rediff.com
and he replies to that. My previous experiences with a couple
of journlists have not been so fruitful. These so called armchair journlists
write something out of fantasy but look sheepish when confronted with the
facts and do not bother to acknowledge leave alone replying.
Also please give me the address of that gentleman.
With warm regards,
Sincerely,

Dr. N.K.Kalia


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I'm Venal, You're Scum
By Dilip D'Souza.

Pakistan is venal," she said to me. "We are not." This friend and I were
chatting the day the news broke about the six horribly mutilated
soldiers' bodies that Pakistan returned to India. Outrage was rampant,
naturally enough. What a sick, gruesome thing for their Pakistani
captors to do. My friend was angry and depressed, almost unable to
comprehend the brutality of this crime.


I cannot claim I could comprehend it. What possesses people who do such
things to other people? What purpose was served? What was achieved
except revulsion and rage, except six families shattered? I don't know.


I had not planned it that way, but Rediff On The NeTcarried my last
column, Accused of
Being Accursed, on the day we heard about these six soldiers. That
timing set me following stray trains of thought. May I offer you a sense
of where they led?


If you read that column, you will remember that it was about a member of
West Bengal's Kheria Sabar tribe, a 29-year-old man called Budhan. In
February last year, he was picked up by the Purulia district police and
beaten to death. Budhan's fault? He was born a Sabar, a tribe the
British once designated as criminal. That made him an automatic suspect
in a crime that had been committed in the district. That led the Purulia
police to thrash him over seven days until he died.


Budhan Sabar left a young widow, Shyamoli.


Some weeks ago, I had another column here called What A Fall Was This.
That one was about a
member of Maharashtra's Phase Pardhi tribe, a 35 year old man called
Pinya Hari Kale. In June last year, he was picked up by the Baramati
(Satara district) police and beaten to death. Pinya's fault? He was born
a Pardhi, another tribe the British once designated as criminal. That
made him an automatic suspect in a crime that had been committed in the
district. That led three constables and a sub-inspector to thrash him
until he died early the next morning.


Pinya Kale left a young widow, Chandrasena, and five children.


People die in police custody all the time. Our home ministry announced
last year that in 1997 there were 888 such deaths in India -- a 100 per
cent increase over the 444 of the previous year. (Of those 888, 200 died
in Maharashtra, a 506 per cent increase over the 33 of the previous
year). These are the numbers we officially admit to.


Yes, people die in police custody all the time; yet when they live, you
cannot help thinking they are better off dead.


In 1981, police in Bhagalpur, Bihar, thrust needles into the eyes of
several prisoners, blinding them permanently. When a move was made to
take action against the policemen, the then chief minister of Bihar
scuttled it, saying the blindings had "social sanction."


Social sanction for sticking needles into human eyes: please give it a
thought.


In January 1997, police in Rajkot, Gujarat, rubbed some kind of paste
into the eyes of seven undertrials who were out on bail. Dr Rekha
Gosalia, Superintendent of the G T Sheth Eye Hospital where these men
were taken, told The Statesman that "there was severe watering, redness
and burning sensation and the transparency of the cornea had been
affected and this had resulted in corneal opacity." The Statesman went
on to report that "the use of this torture method was not unknown in
police circles. ... [An investigation by the Criminal Investigation
Department] indicted the Deputy Commissioner of Police, Dr K L N Rao,
and nine Rajkot policemen, including a head constable, for the crime."


Then there are the children. Human Rights Watch (in Police Abuse and
Killings of Street Children in India November 1996) tells us about 15-
year-old Shantanu, picked up by two officers of the D N Nagar police
station in Bombay on January 8, 1993. He was suspected of having
committed a robbery a week earlier.


In a "separate enquiry room" at the police station, Shantanu was asked
to put his hands on a table; they were then beaten with a baton for an
hour. Later, he was hung from the ceiling and beaten on the shoulder,
back and thighs for 45 minutes. Afterwards, he was made to lie on a
block of ice and hit each time he tried to move; then he was made to lie
in the sun and beaten while being asked where the stolen property was.


Two days later, the police brought in Shantanu's parents and threatened
to beat them if he did not confess. He did, but was kept in the police
station for another week and beaten some more. Produced before a
magistrate on January 18, Shantanu told the court that he had been
tortured so badly he could not stand. He was right. Two policemen held
him up during the court session.


When he was finally released, Shantanu spent another 20 days in
hospital, being treated for the torture.


Nor is it just the police who are responsible for vicious inhumanity,
just supposed criminals who suffer it.


In Bombay in December 1992 and January 1993, Indians picked up other
Indians and threw them off bridges onto the railway tracks below; more
routinely, they burned, shot, slashed and stabbed hundreds to death.
Over 1,000 were so murdered.


In 1984, much the same happened to 3,000 Indians in Delhi. In Bihar,
rival gangs regularly massacre villagers. Hundreds have been killed in
years of this merry-go-round slaughter. In Orissa earlier this year, a
middle-aged man and his two young sons were burned to death as they
slept in their car.


And all this happened because the dead belonged to one caste or another,
one religion or another. Worse still, many other Indians are quite
content to let that explanation stand, content to let the killers escape
punishment. The victims had it coming to them, after all. Their identity
is their guilt, after all.


Budhan Sabar and Pinya Kale were just two humans that I happened to
write about. Two Indians who make up those numbers of deaths in police
custody. Two people who were picked up, tortured and beaten to death by
the keepers of India's laws.


Shantanu and the men who were blinded did not die, but suffered
terribly. They make up numbers too: as do the victims of rioting, caste
warfare and the other carnage that we so quickly rationalise away.


Indeed, I don't know why the Pakistanis tortured our six soldiers. It
sickens me. I write this to ask -- in all humility and because I truly
want to know -- why that crime was greeted by so much outrage, but
tortured deaths like those of Budhan and Pinya found so little.


I write this knowing there will be patriots leaping to denounce me for
trivialising those six horrible deaths. Not at all. Instead, I am trying
to de-trivialise, you might say, the deaths of those tribals, the stream
of brutality that flows past us 24 hours a day, seven days a week, all
year round. I want someone to tell me why it needs no comment.


Pakistan is venal, she said. That will be echoed and applauded
everywhere it is heard in India. For that's what the wagers of war in
New Delhi, mirrored always in Islamabad, want us to feel. That's the way
war is waged. In perfect harmony, the beat goes on: you have writers
telling you it is Pakistan's Islam -- or India's Hinduism -- that is the
root of the brutality. That it is in "their" very character to mutilate
and torture people. Not in "ours." That "they" are venal. "We" are not.


Whatever "they" and "we" happen to mean at the time of writing.


Thanks, the war-wagers are saying. Thanks for allowing us to turn you
away from the venality within, the dirt we don't really care to clean
up. The dirt we will distract you from by telling you that war in
Kashmir is really what we all must concentrate on, must rally behind

By Balaji on Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 03:23 am:

Dear Atalji,
You are one of the most respected PM of India, India is Hindustan and Hinduism must be the religon, all rules and regulations according to Hindu religion should be followed in this country. Every body irrespective of their religion should do fasting during Ekadashi. Every body in India should wear bindis on their fore head. No religion should hoist their flag without hoisting Indian National flag. Every body should pay tax even if they are running paan beeda shop. Proper survillance cameras should be used to catch in public offices ,govt offices to catch corrupt officials. All religious places other than hindu temples should allow a ten member juries to visit these religious palces preferably hindus picked from the society. These people should understand what they are preaching in madrasas ,Churches and Mosques and guru dwaras. Any one teaching,preaching anti India should be put in Jail for life time or given capital punishment. Hindus who work in some Arab countries have to fast during Ramzan, be like a Roman in Rome, that policy is good. All religions should follow monogamy and shall have only two Children.
We as Hindustan should be prepared to face any evntuality. We should not give even an inch of land to pakis,chinis,bangla.We should keep our defence forces fully prepared. please take personal intrest in finding out whether our ordnance factories and airforce and public sector defence undertakings are performing properly. Some officials are too much demanding ad really spoil the working people. One senior officer by name moorthy in LCA who is also connected with ALH in HAL is very corrupt. encourage R&D and result oriented goals so that we can come up like any otherr country in the world. We have some of the best people who work really hard.

I request you to take personal intrest in order to look into these aspects.

Thanking you Sir,
Balaji

By bharat-premi on Saturday, June 10, 2000 - 08:56 pm:

Many naive Indian Gandhians are still preaching non-violence when the world's super-powers are
aremed to the teeth and going to war against any country they wish.

India needs a nuclear defence:

This long article is quite good - gives the history of why India HAD to go nuclear:-

http://members.tripod.com/~INDIA_RESOURCE/nuclear2.html

By Karan on Thursday, February 24, 2000 - 08:57 pm:

India is a world that lives from accient times to now. Manny things what is now normal in the western world came from India. Today the western world is
distroying al these values and has lost all moral sense. Their only goal is to control the world. If countries don't accept their norms dan they destroy them. It doesnt matter if it is a war or other dirty'trick. ALL THIS IS HAPPENING NOW 2000 YEARS. THIS IS EXACTLY THE PERIOD WHEN INDIA STOPT USING POWER. FROM NOW INDIA IS BACK AND IS PREPARING FOR THE NEXT KRUKSHETRA. FOR A FREE WORLD.

By Editor (Admin) on Thursday, December 17, 1998 - 04:38 pm:

India turns down US proposed restraints

NEW DELHI, India, Dec. 16 -- India's Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee said that New Delhi would not surrender its right to produce nuclear weapons even after it signs the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty.

Speaking to the Indian parliament today, Vajpayee said that India would continue to develop ballistic missiles capable of carrying warheads.The Indian premier said that New Delhi would not accept any restraints proposed by the United States during the six rounds of bilateral talks on nuclear weapons.Washington has been proposed three restraints; to put a full stop on missile development, sign the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and ban the production of fissile material, he said. Vajpayee said that his government would continue to deploy nuclear weapons,
continue to develop ballistic missiles and reserve the right to produce more bomb-grade material.However, Vajpayee agreed to the Washington proposal to sign the CTBT before September and tighten the control on export of fissile technology.Referring to the self-impose nuclear moratorium, Vajpayee said
that no testing did not mean curbing the development of nuclear weapons.India and Pakistan are under international pressure to sign the CTBT after the two
archrivals conducted tit-for-tat nuclear tests in May.

Led by the Clinton administration, several nations slapped economic sanctions on the two poverty stricken nations.Washington partially lifted sanctions this month after New Delhi and Islamabad announced a moratorium on further testing and promised to sign the CTBT by September.The Indian premier promised that his
government would not use the nuclear weapons as first strike but would use as nuclear deterrent as part of country's defense preparedness.India and Pakistan have fought three wars in the last 50 years. [UPI report]

By Anonymous on Friday, January 01, 1999 - 05:07 pm:

Its time India asserted itself. The previous Indian leaders have taken too many steps hoping to please the 'other guys'. I think it is time we thought of our own interests specially security. Lets not kid ourselves - We stand alone in the world. We have seen too many rwandas and congos going on in the world with the so called policemen of the world wasting meaningless tears. Innocent people have been killed by ISI sponsored terrorism in India but so long as western intersts are not hurt no one heeds.
Hindus specially are isolated. The moslems have the gulf nations behind thier backs. Christians have vatican and the western nations behind thiers. Jews have Big brothers in US and Israel. Who does hindus have? Are we any less than other people? And lets not forget the most important part - We have none else to count on except ourselves!

By zeta sogani on Saturday, January 16, 1999 - 12:18 pm:

indian security scene is'nt just nuke..is it? infact nuke-weapons are really to be used for brandishing to the world. real security lies in defence forces being alert, motivated, well eqiupped and a reliable intelligence system.

as far as nukes are concerned, we already are a nuclear power. many countries including france, russia, ets have accepted that & are willing to forge realtions with us on this new scenario. instead of focusing on the unnecessarily loud protestations made by usa(a country proven to follow only it's on selfish intrests at any cost--and then jargonising it), we should focus on other countries for strengthing our defence relations with the world. a strong defence policy,linked with forign policy and economic policy is the real defence barrier india needs.

By Editor (Admin) on Thursday, March 18, 1999 - 04:50 pm:

Chinese N-warheads target US, India, Russia


The New York Times in a front page article on Monday said China possessed
roughly 20 missiles that could reach Amĺrican shores and perhaps 300
nuclear weapons aboard medium-range missiles or bombers that could hit
India, Russia and Jápan. The long-range versions are reportedly ``buried
deep in the mountains 150 miles east of Xian,'' not far from the renowned
terracotta army built to protect Chinese emperors of yore. US experts
maintain that these long- range missiles, mounted atop liquid-fuel rockets,
are not sophisticated ây Pentagon's standards. But they may not remain so
as Beijing embarks on an ambitious 10-year plan to modernise its forces.The
paper said in the next decade China could fundamentaěly alter its nuclear
strategy from being one that is largely defensive to one that could become
a ``far more potent arsĺnal that could rekindle the kind of fears that
shaped the cold war.'' This is similar to a scenario some of India's own
security analysts have etched in recent times --a mďre aggressive,
confident Beijing in the next millenium equipped with a more modern,
accurate, easier-to-launch and far ěess vulnerable to attack nuclear
arsenal. This report follows revelations over Beijing's clandestine
activity in the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the US. Republican
leadeňs have stepped up their attacks on the Clinton administration over
public television whilst the National Security Adviser Sámuel `Sandy'
Berger acknowledged that ``there was no question'' that China had benefited
from information it acquired secretly. The Chinese Prime Minister, due here
in Washington next month, meanwhile in his statements from Beijing
categorised the nuclear spying charges as a ``tale from the Arabian Nights.''

How effectively has China benefited from its nuclear espionage in US
research labs, especially the designs of the W-88 --America's most advanced
miniaturised warhead? Former Defence Secretary William J. Perry who
recently visited China said here last week: ``With or without the W-88
warhead, China today is able to threaten the United States. You have to
anticipate that ability will improve in coming years. They will evolve into
a more global force. The challenge is, how do we manage that?''Forbidding
scenarios of a formidably-armed nuclear China has only spurred a spirited
debate here about deploying anti-missile defences around the American
mainland as well as around Japan, Taiwan or South Korea. But this talk of
an ``American Missile Shield'' clearly infuriates Chinese leaders and has
triggered vociferous opposition from Beijing's leaders including Premier
Zhu Rongji. It is particularly sore that such a proposed mighty missile
barrier might include Taiwan. Last week, Chinese Foreign Minister Tang
Jiaxuan stated bluntly that any efforts to include Taiwan in such a system
``would amount to an encroachment on China's sovereignty and territorial
integrity.'' Meanwhile lawmakers from both parties seem to be working with
new vigour to deny favourable trading access for China and to block
Beijing's admission to the World Trade Organisation, its leading
international goal. Both moves mean Chinese goods sold in the US, now a
ubiquitous presence, will become costlier. In an interesting sidelight to
the espionage scandal, it was reported by The Washington Post that the New
York Times, which first reported on Chinese spying in Los Alamos -- had
``held up'' its March 4 story following a request by the FBI for one day.
The FBI made a second request to delay the story further, this time The
Times apparently refused. The executive editor of the páper, Joseph
Lelyveld, was quoted as saying that FBI officials justified the initial
request for delay ``on grounds that they had an appointment to question the
alleged suspect on Friday.'' He said if the story had appeared a day
earlier, the suspect would have had a ``heightened awareness'' of himself
as a suspect and the ``element of surprise'' would have been lost and the
paper opted to delay the story.

By Editor (Admin) on Thursday, March 18, 1999 - 04:52 pm:

PM confident of resolving thorny issues with Pak

PRIME MINISTER A B Vajpayee said today that India and Pakistan would have
to find lasting solutions to outstanding bilateral problems through talks
as the two countries ''cannot afford another war which will involve nuclear
arms.''As neighbours, we have to live together. Nuclear weapons are not
meant for attack. They are meant only for self-defence,`` he said,
emphasising that the two countries would have to talk to each other to
resolve their problems.He was winding up the discussion in the Lok Sabha on
the motion of thanks to the president`s joint address to Parliament.The
Parliament later approved the motion of thanks to President K R Narayanan
for his address to its joint sitting on February 22 after its adoption by
the Lok Sabha today.The prime minister said: ''We (India and Pakistan) are
taking steps to build trust and faith.`` He was confident that the two
countries would move forward in the right direction. The two countries had
resolved to take ''new`` measures of confidence-building.

J&K terrorism
However, the continued infiltration of foreign mercenaries into Jammu and
Kashmir from across the border and terrorist incidents would not help the
process of building trust and confidence.In the wake of the last month`s
Rajouri killings, he had taken up the matter with Pakistan Prime Minister
Nawaz Sharif during their talks in Lahore.''I told him that the spirit of
talks would be lost if killings continued,`` Mr Vajpayee said.

He sought to
allay criticism against the government`s decision to go nuclear.
''Pokhran`` was for India`s security.

By news on Saturday, March 27, 1999 - 05:01 pm:

Reprinted from India Abroad, Mar 26, 1999.
By Harold, A. Gould (Visiting professor of S. Asian Studies at the U of
Virginia, Charlotesville)

Recent revelations concerning how the Chinese purloined from the Los Alamos
nuclear research
facility the technology needed to miniaturize nuclear bombs in order to get
more bang for
their warheads, should teach India a lessor about how to stay in the good
graces of the
worlds only superpower.

The message is that it really does not matter all that much how outrageously
you offend American
moral sensibilities about non-proliferation, as long as you stand near to
the top of the hierarchy
of "American strategic and commercial interests".

When India and Pakistan went ballistic last May, the US government and the
Beltway think tanks
went ballistic as well. Both countries were bitterly condemned for putting
greater faith in their
perceived national interests than in non-proliferation treaties whose bona
fides they had good
reasons to question.

Painful sanctions were slapped on both countries. International funding
agencies were pressured
to block loans and credits needed to sustain the momentum that recent
economic reforms in
both countries, as well as political reforms in Pakistan, had set in motion.

Pakistani and Indian scholars were denied visas to attend conferences to
which they had been
invited. Both countries were petulantly informed that their newly acquired
atom bombs would never
gain them admission into the nuclear big boys club.

A hint of how you have your cake and eat it too regarding nuclear
proliferation was actually supplied
years ago by the Pakistanis. Remember Abdul Qadeer Khan, the nuclear
engineer who revealed to
and Indian journalist in 1987 that Pakistan was already weapons-capable?

This coincided with disclosures about efforts by Pakistani operatives in the
US to bribe customs officials
in Philadelphia to permit the export of triggering devices for their
country's weapons program.

Also there were disclosures that the Pakistanis were combing Europe in
search of technology
suppliers who would do business with them; and that the Chinese were
funneling relevant technologies
to them right and left while the US looked the other way.

All this, while former President Zia-ul-Haq and his successors were solemnly
assuring their US
benefactors was squeakly clean regarding their pledge to abjure any further
pursuit of the bomb.

In the face of this obvious disingenuousness, the Ronald Reagan and George
Bush Administration
expended the bulk of their energy trying to circumvent the Glenn, Symingtona
and Pressler
amendments that envisage cutting off all economic and military assistance to
any country found
trying to manufacture atom bombs on the sly.

This of course was because Pakistan had something the US wanted - its
geopolitical relevance as
a staging base for countering the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

In her 1997 book, "India, Pakistan and the United States: Breaking with the
Past" Shirin Tahir-Kheli
notes that "presidential waivers were granted annually to the Pakistani
assistance package" for a very
simple reason:because in the White House's words, "disrupting one of the
pillars of the US
relationship with Pakistan would be counterproductive to the strategic
interests of the United States...."

So the point is that principle took a back seat to expediency; as long as
Pakistan ranked high on
the ladder of American security priorities.

Principle also regularly takes a back seat where perceived vital economic
interests are concerned.

This is the lesson to be drawn from US relations with China. And the recent
revelations about China's
theft of vital US nuclear secrets brings this point home with a vengeance.

Had India been the culprit rather than China, there would have been no
cover-up. There would have been
hell to pay. There would have been no 2 year wait before the US owned up to
what had taken place,
followed by a spin operation to play down the implications in the hope that
the Chinese rage over being
caught would not lead to contract cancellations and other pecuniary
unpleasantries. And besides would
not too publicity about this imperil and impending US visit by the Chinese
Premier?

Had India - which incidentally, has neither stolen US secrets nor exported
nuclear technologies to
third parties - rather than China been the culprit, the howls of righteous
indignation emanating from
the press, the media, the arms control community, the Oval Office and
Capitol Hill would have
been defeaning.

But when it is the other way around, the famous double standard ordains that
nothing must be allowed
to disturb the so called "constructive engagement" which is nothing more
than a code word for
preserving corporate America's sweetheart relationship with the "China
market>"

That relationship is sacrosanct. Relations with India, which thus far has an
insufficient amount to offer
either in strategic or commercial terms, are not. While Pakistan once
mattered, and could
consequently be given latitude to lie and steal and cheat, it no longer
does, now that the Soviet threat
is a thing of the past.

It has sunk down in the hierarchy to India's level of irrelevance, and must
now like its neighbor, endure
the slings and arrows of moral outrage and worse for daring, like China, to
assign first priority to its
own perceived national interests.

What are the lessons that India, and indeed Pakistan, as well, must learn
from the new China scandal?
OBVIOUSLY THAT ONLY WHEN BOTH COUNTRIES FIND WAYS TO MAKE THEMSELVES SO
VITAL TO THE COMMERCIAL AND STRATEGIC INTERESTS OF THE US WILL THEIR SINS
CAN
BE OVERLOOKED, OR ATE LEAST PLAYED DOWN. ONLY THEN CAN THEY HOPE TO
WEATHER THE WRATH OF SANCTIMONIOUS NON-PROLIFERATION THEOLOGIANS WHO HAVE
NO QUALMS ABOUT BULLYING AND PUNISHING WEAK AND STRATEGICALLY IRRELEVANT
STATES
FOR THEIR ALLEGED SINS, WHILE FINDING EXCUSES GALORE FOR THE MISBEHAVIOR OF
COUNTRIES THAT ARE TOO STRONG AND VITAL TO AMERICAN INTERESTS FOR THEM TO
RISK PRACTICING WHAT THEY PREACH. (emphasis mine)

By LOVE on Thursday, May 13, 1999 - 05:40 pm:

we are not of your native ancestery but we are from the same place. I am a first nations people of Canada and my Love is Welsh. We honour you by the fact that Budda and all those great teachers live in our house with us as I know they are also with you. We play drums (Congos) and call up the most wonderful Spirits when we play. We are Blessed to know you as We know that you are there, here, now. We send you the most gentle of Love since this is the Greatest Power that is. Let us make it so beacuse we know that we shall win.

By Jenab on Monday, July 05, 1999 - 02:20 am:

It is good that India will insist on keeping its right to produce nuclear weapons, but I think that India should NOT sign any sort of Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty. India should not give an inch to the manipulators of the West. These manipulators are the Jews, the Zionists of New York City and Washington, DC. They are the ones who control "public opinion" in the United States and in Great Britain by their ownership of the mass media for news and entertainment. You cannot trust these Jews - never, never make that mistake. If you do, you will lose your country just as the Americans have lost theirs. Do you think that the American people had a problem with Serbia or Iraq? NO! It was the Jews who had the problems, and they are able to use the US military forces as their own mercenaries. Americans have a great fault: they are politically lazy, and this laziness let the Jews take over. Beware, India. Keep your nuclear weapons and stay strong. If you have not signed the Nuclear Test Ban treaty already, then do not sign it. Every little country will need nuclear weapons from now on, in order to keep their national sovereignty and not become a victim like Serbia. Countries without the ability to hurt the New World Order Zionists will fall, one by one, to the aggression of NATO or some other international military organization that these Jews indirectly control.

You may go to this URL to see my opinion about Serbia's surrender to the United Nations after the NATO bombing.


http://pw1.netcom.com/~jna/news/serbia.html


Good luck with your country's future prosperity. We White nationalists wish Indians all the best.

By Mano on Thursday, July 08, 1999 - 06:03 pm:

Dear Sir/Madam,
I think it is a right thing to make nuclear
weapons for the self-defence of a nation. If China
has nuclear weapons so ďther nations have full
liberty to make nuclear bombs. No country in the
world can challenge America on earth or in the space.China is not that much strong yet.It is a
war between democracy and communism. Every one has
seen two world wars before. India loves peace and
will not do war with other nations. However, no
country has right to interfere in the freedom of
India, America, Japan, England, France, etc.India
know well how to answer the world in case of war.
Thanks.

By Anonymous on Sunday, September 05, 1999 - 03:27 pm:

http://www.nv.doe.gov/news&pubs/newsreleases/cimarron11.htm

http://www.acda.gov/treaties/ctb.htm

http://www.nv.doe.gov/news&pubs/newsreleases/bagpipe.htm

http://www.pacificnews.org/jinn/stories/4.10/980518-bomb.html


US still testing AND IMPROVEING NUKE STOCKPILE , Has reserved the right to first îuke strike. NO TO INDIA SIGNING CTBT .

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